Forest of Dean FHT Forum - - James BROAD (another angle on Arthur James HAYES!)

James BROAD (another angle on Arthur James HAYES!) (reply)

unknown — Fri, 23 May 2008 20:32:41 +0000

I think it's probably the second one. First one's too early. There certainly don't seem to be any others.

Sian.

Arthur James HAYES Devon prior thread (reply)

unknown — Fri, 23 May 2008 20:28:07 +0000

It looks as though the surname BROAD may just have been coincidence. The only reason I wondered is that the only marriage I've found anywhere in a plausible time frame between a Jeremiah HAYES and an Elizabeth is in Walcot, Somerset with Elizabeth's maiden name BROAD. When AJH turns up lodging with some more BROADs and no sign anywhere else of any family I began to wonder.

But it must just be a fluke.

Either that or the Elizabeth I found is the wrong one!

Ah well. Back to the drawing board.

Thanks for all your hard work, Chris and Slowhands.

Regards,
Sian.

Arthur James HAYES Devon prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 23 May 2008 13:33:25 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=10534#p10539

Thomas Parry m Mary Hail 1832 (reply)

ChrisW — Fri, 23 May 2008 13:26:30 +0000

This may have been Mary Broad's first marriage, with death of 1st husband two years later:

Record_ID: 9452
Entry Number: 62
Year: 1832
Month: Apl
Day: 5
Groom Surname: PARRY
Groom Forenames: Thomas
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition: Batchelor
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Longhope
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: HAIL
Bride Forenames: Mary
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Longhope
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: Licence
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both Sign
Witness 1: J[oh]n Coleman [?]
Witness 2: Elizabeth Coleman
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Edward Probyn Vicar
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P206 IN 1/6
Page No: 21
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex Groom: P600
Soundex Bride: H400

Record_ID: 21331
Entry Number: 273
Year: 1834
Month: Feb
Day: 17
Surname: PARRY
Forenames: Thomas
Place of Residence: Longhope
Age at death: 35
Officiating Minister: Edw[ar[d Probyn Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause of death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P206 IN 1/10
Page No: 35
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex: P600

Haven't found any links to the mysterious Arthur J Hayes yet!

Mary Griffiths bap.1791 Mitcheldean (reply)

ChrisW — Fri, 23 May 2008 13:10:25 +0000

Record_ID: 110050
Entry Number:
Year: 1791
Month: Sep
Day: 16
Parents Surname: GRIFFITHS
Child Forenames: Mary
Father's Forenames: George
Mother's Forenames: Sarah
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating Minister:
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: Daug[hte]r of
Notes:
Register Reference: P220 IN 1/2
Page No: 14
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean
Soundex: G613

James BROAD 1778 Stourport Worcs ? => Cinderford (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 23 May 2008 12:55:08 +0000

1841 Cinderford
James Broad abt 1781 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire Furnace Manager
Mary Broad abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Arthur Hayes 1822 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Cinderford Iron Works
James Broad abt 1777 Stourport, Worcestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Manager of Blast Furnace
Mary Broad abt 1792 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Isabella Griffiths abt 1821 Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales Niece East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Robinson abt 1825 Marcle, Herefordshire, England Servant East Dean, Gloucestershire

JAMES BROAD
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 JUL 1778 Kidderminster, Worcester, England
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Parents:
Father: JAMES BROAD
Mother: SUSANNAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C043951 1732 - 1761 0435261 Film 0933455 Film
C043951 1761 - 1784 0435262 Film NONE
C043951 1784 - 1812 0435264 Film NONE
C043951 1813 - 1820 0435265 Film NONE
C043951 1820 0435267 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

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JAMES BROAD
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Marriages:
Spouse: SUSANNAH TIMMINS
Marriage: 05 DEC 1771 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M040271 1719 - 1774 0527938 Film 1238685 Film
M040271 1774 - 1813 0527939 Film NONE
M040271 1813 - 1822 0527940 Film NONE
M040271 1822 - 1833 0527942 Film NONE
M040271 1833 - 1837 0527943 Film NONE
M040271 1837 - 1846 0533992 Film NONE
M040271 1846 - 1854 0533993 Film NONE
M040271 1854 - 1860 0533994 Film NONE
M040271 1860 - 1868 0533995 Film NONE
M040271 1868 - 1877 0533996 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

James BROAD (another angle on Arthur James HAYES!) (reply)

ChrisW — Fri, 23 May 2008 12:27:49 +0000

Could this be him?

Deaths Mar 1843 (>99%)

BROAD James Upton upon Severn 18 366
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...or maybe this one?

Deaths Mar 1857 (>99%)

Broad James Upton on Severn 6c 200
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James BROAD (another angle on Arthur James HAYES!)

unknown — Fri, 23 May 2008 11:03:45 +0000

In 1836 James BROAD (widower) married Mary PARRY in Abenhall according to the parish records on this site. In 1841 Arthur James HAYES was lodging with them... though you won't find them by looking at any of the indexes, as both the Broads have had their names mangled and they're down as a different household in any case!

I'm interested in James as he may have been Arthur James HAYES's maternal uncle. However, I know very little more than this about him, apart from the fact that he gives his place of birth as Upton-on-Severn, Worcs. He seems to have died before 1861 as his widow is then staying with one of the witnesses at her wedding.

Does anyone know anything else?