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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAO Slowhands, and good afternoon,<br />
re <br />
<em>Memoranda: Parents Albert Williams born 28/11/14 </em><br />
Well done Sir for spotting that this &quot;11&quot; is in fact &quot;II&quot; aka February ! </p>
<p>Please can you tell me is this because you&#039;ve seen the original document and the website BR is a Transcription error, or is it <em>just</em> a piece of highly commendable genius on your part !<br />
Either way well-done and thanks for sorting it out.</p>
<p>Also you posted:<br />
Name: John Charles W Philpot <br />
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1914 <br />
Date of Registration: Dec 1998 <br />
Age at Death: 84 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire <br />
Register number: 16B <br />
District and Subdistrict: 5241 <br />
Entry number: 290</p>
<p>Is it just a coincidence the dates the same or ???, amazing.</p>
<p>Please can you share your source for the above record, thanks. Sorry to no doubt appear dim but I&#039; struggling to keep up and just want to learn</p>
<p>Best regards, Jeff.</p>
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<title>Laura Cissie E PHILPOT ( nee GRIFFITHS) 1913 - 2004 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name: Laura C E Griffiths <br />
Mother&#039;s Maiden Name: Griffiths <br />
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 821 </p>
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Name: Laura Cissie E Philpot <br />
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1913 <br />
Date of Registration: Mar 2004 <br />
Age at Death: 91 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire <br />
Register number: 20B <br />
District and Subdistrict: 524/1 <br />
Entry number: 197</p>
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<title>Albert James WILLIAMS 1895 Moorwood, Lydbrook (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Year:1895<br />
Month:Jul<br />
Day:28<br />
Parents_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Child_Forenames:Albert James<br />
Fathers_Forenames:John<br />
Mothers_Forenames:Selina<br />
Mothers_Surname:<br />
Residence:Moorwwod Coppice, East Dean<br />
Occupation:Collier<br />
Officiating_Minister:Jacob Wilson<br />
Event:Baptism<br />
Memoranda:Born 1895 Jul 2 Baptised at Reddings<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:D2598/3/5<br />
Page_Number:18<br />
Parish_Chapel:West Dean Methodist</p>
<p>Year:1918<br />
Month:Nov<br />
Day:23<br />
Grooms_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Grooms_Forenames:Albert James<br />
Grooms_Age:23<br />
Groom_Condition:Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation:Miner<br />
Grooms_Residence:Lydbrook<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:John<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:Miner<br />
Brides_Surname:SMITH<br />
Brides_Forenames:Beatrice Ellen<br />
Brides_Age:24<br />
Brides_Condition:Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation:<br />
Brides_Residence:Lydbrook<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:SMITH<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:William<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:Colliery [Overman]<br />
Licence_or_Banns:Licence<br />
Date_of_Banns:<br />
Signature_or_Mark:both sign<br />
Witness_1:Ernest Smith<br />
Witness_2:Frances Harris<br />
Other_Witnesses:<br />
Officiating_Minister:G A Hopkins<br />
Event:Marriage<br />
Memoranda:<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:P208 IN 1/5<br />
Page_Number:197<br />
Parish_Chapel:Lydbrook</p>
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<title>John Charles Webb PHILPOT 28 Feb 1914 - 1998 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Memoranda: Parents Albert Williams born 28/11/14 </em></p>
<p>The 28/November was puzzling me, but now it is clear that the II is roman numerals for month 2 i.e. Feb.<br />
I wonder if Albert Williams is Lily Williams brother and named as a God-parent ?</p>
<p>&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;</p>
<p>Year:1892<br />
Month:Aug<br />
Day:7<br />
Parents_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Child_Forenames:Lily<br />
Fathers_Forenames:John<br />
Mothers_Forenames:Selina<br />
Mothers_Surname:<br />
Residence:Pluds<br />
Occupation:Labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister:W E Seaver<br />
Event:Baptism<br />
Memoranda:Born 1 Jan 1890<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:P275 IN 1/8<br />
Page_Number:59<br />
Parish_Chapel:Ruardean</p>
<p><br />
1881<br />
John T. Philpot  abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Julia Philpot  abt 1852 Weston, Hereford, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Thomas Philpot  abt 1874 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Georgina Philpot  abt 1876 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John Philpot abt 1880 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p>1891<br />
John T Philpot  abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Georgenia Philpot  abt 1876 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John C Philpot  abt 1879 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Leopold A Philpot  abt 1888 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
1901<br />
John Thomas   abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Herefordshire  <br />
 <span style="color:#3c0;">Leopold Actice Philpott  abt 1888 Ruardean,</span> Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Herefordshire </p>
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1901<br />
John Williams  abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Selina Williams  abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Kate Williams abt 1885 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Charlie Williams  abt 1888 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 <span style="color:#090;">Lily Williams abt 1890 East Dean,</span> Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Beatrice Williams  abt 1893 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Edith Williams  abt 1895 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
<span style="color:#f00;"> Albert Williams abt 1896 East Dean,</span> Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
<span style="color:#090;">Name: Leopold A Philpot <br />
Spouse : Lily Williams</span><br />
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913 <br />
Registration district: Monmouth <br />
Inferred County: Monmouthshire <br />
Volume Number: 11a <br />
Page Number: 52 </p>
<p>Groom Surname Groom Forename<br />
Bride Surname Bride Forename<br />
District Parish Building Year Register Entry</p>
<p>PHILPOT Leopold Archer<br />
WILLIAMS Lily<br />
Forest of Dean  Lydbrook Holy Jesus 1913 1 346</p>
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Year:1913<br />
Month:Mar<br />
Day:24<br />
Grooms_Surname:PHILPOT<br />
Grooms_Forenames:Leopold Archer<br />
Grooms_Age:25<br />
Groom_Condition:Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation:Weighman<br />
Grooms_Residence:Ruardean<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: PHILPOT<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:John (deceased)<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:Farmer<br />
Brides_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Brides_Forenames:Lily<br />
Brides_Age:23<br />
Brides_Condition:Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation:<br />
Brides_Residence:Lydbrook<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:John<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:Collier<br />
Licence_or_Banns:Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns:<br />
Signature_or_Mark:both sign<br />
Witness_1:John Williams<br />
Witness_2:Gladys Harper<br />
Other_Witnesses:<br />
Officiating_Minister:G A Hopkins<br />
Event:Marriage<br />
Memoranda:<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:P208 IN 1/5<br />
Page_Number:173<br />
Parish_Chapel:Lydbrook</p>
<p><br />
Name: John C W Philpot <br />
Mother&#039;s Maiden Name: Williams <br />
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1914 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 794</p>
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Year:1940<br />
Month:Sep<br />
Day:28<br />
Grooms_Surname:PHILPOT<br />
Grooms_Forenames:John Charles Webb<br />
Grooms_Age:26<br />
Groom_Condition:Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation:Charge hand<br />
Grooms_Residence:Cambria Cottage Ruardean<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:Philpot<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:Leopold Archer<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:Colliery Weighman<br />
Brides_Surname:GRIFFITHS<br />
Brides_Forenames:Laura Cissie Edith<br />
Brides_Age:27<br />
Brides_Condition:Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation:<br />
Brides_Residence:Crossways Ruardean<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:Not Known<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:Not Known<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:<br />
Licence_or_Banns:Licence<br />
Date_of_Banns:<br />
Signature_or_Mark:Both sign<br />
Witness_1:B H Simmonds<br />
Witness_2:G Griffiths<br />
Other_Witnesses:<br />
Officiating_Minister:G J[?] Hilder Rector<br />
Event:Marriage<br />
Memoranda:<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:P275 IN 1/26<br />
Page_Number:2<br />
Parish_Chapel:Ruardean</p>
<p>Christine M Philpot Jan-Feb-Mar 1942 Forest of Dean Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire   <br />
 Gerald A Philpot Jul-Aug-Sep 1946 Forest of Dean Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire </p>
<p>Name: Christine M Philpot <br />
Spouse : Michael J Baldwin<br />
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1963 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Herefordshire <br />
Volume Number: 9a <br />
Page Number: 248 </p>
<p><br />
Name: Gerald A Philpot <br />
Spouse: Barbara A Tye<br />
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1968 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Herefordshire <br />
Volume Number: 9a <br />
Page Number: 252 </p>
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Name: John Charles W Philpot <br />
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1914 <br />
Date of Registration: Dec 1998 <br />
Age at Death: 84 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire <br />
Register number: 16B <br />
District and Subdistrict: 5241 <br />
Entry number: 290</p>
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<title>Memoranda Baptism of John Charles Webb Philpot 12 Apr 1914 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your help, I think I will need to dig much further before this becomes clear.  I&#039;ll post back when or if I get to the bottom of it.</p>
<p>I think the reason for Margaret and Joan&#039;s Baptisms being private might have been because Margaret was sick, there&#039;s a burial record for her within a year.  There&#039;s also a christening record at the chapel for Joan just a couple of months after the private one.</p>
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<title>Memoranda Baptism of John Charles Webb Philpot 12 Apr 1914 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Record_ID: 118264 <br />
Entry_Number: 424 <br />
Year: 1914 <br />
Month: Apr <br />
Day: 12 <br />
Parents_Surname: PHILPOT <br />
Child_Forenames: John Charles Webb <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Leopold Archer <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Liby <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: West End Ruardean <br />
Occupation: Collier Weightman <br />
Officiating_Minister: G A Hopkins <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Parents Albert Williams born 28/11/14 <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: 20812 <br />
Page_Number: 53 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook <br />
Soundex: P413</p>
<p>Hi Rebecca, hope its not too windy where you are ?.<br />
As you probably know there doesn&#039;t appear to be a Baptism Record for Albert Williams on this site. I cannot find him on GlosBMD or FreeBMD either.</p>
<p>I would normally associate such a memoranda note as an indicator from the Minister that the child being baptised is born &quot;out of wedlock&quot;, with the true father being Albert Williams. However, in such an instance the Baptism Record wouldn&#039;t have normally named the Child&#039;s Father (Leopold Archer). Unusually (at least in my limited experience) the note names another child entirely from that being Baptised, and to make things curiouser &amp; curiouser refers to a later event than the actual Baptism. I can only assume the note was a later addendum ?. </p>
<p>Using the Advanced Search gives the following family group:</p>
<p> 118264 1914 PHILPOT John Charles Webb, Leopold Archer &amp; Liby,   West End Ruardean, Collier Weightman, Lydbrook<br />
 1032718 1917 PHILPOT Margaret Ivy, Archer Leopold &amp; Lily,   Ruardean, Miner, Ruardean <br />
 1032719 1917 PHILPOT Joan Edith, Archer Leopold &amp; Lily,   Ruardean, Miner, Ruardean </p>
<p>I can only wonder if this couple had &quot;adopted&quot; Albert Williams as well, does the name appear later in your tree at all ?</p>
<p>I&#039;ve searched this site for this Albert Williams within the later Marriage Records, but all the possible one&#039;s I&#039;ve found c1938 onwards clearly show a logical Groom&#039;s father and not Leopold etc.</p>
<p>The later Baptisms are:</p>
<p>Record ID 1032718 <br />
Entry Number 9 <br />
Year 1917 <br />
Month Feb <br />
Day 22 <br />
Parents Surname PHILPOT <br />
Child Forenames Margaret Ivy <br />
Fathers Forenames Archer Leopold <br />
Mothers Forenames Lily <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Ruardean <br />
Occupation Miner <br />
Officiating Minister E Parnell Rector <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda Privately Baptized <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P275 IN 1/25 <br />
Page Number 2 <br />
Parish Chapel Ruardean </p>
<p>Record ID 1032719 <br />
Entry Number 10 <br />
Year 1917 <br />
Month Feb <br />
Day 22 <br />
Parents Surname PHILPOT <br />
Child Forenames Joan Edith <br />
Fathers Forenames Archer Leopold <br />
Mothers Forenames Lily <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Ruardean <br />
Occupation Miner <br />
Officiating Minister E Parnell Rector <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda Privately Baptized Christened April 9 <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P275 IN 1/25 <br />
Page Number 2 <br />
Parish Chapel Ruardean </p>
<p>I wonder if the reason the above baptisms were &quot;Private&quot;, and at a different Chapel than before, was due to some social reason / peer pressure perhaps wrt Albert ?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#039;m researching my family tree, and this website is such a help as most of my grandfathers side of the family lived in Ruardean and adjacent settlements for very many generations.</p>
<p>There is an unusual memoranda note on the above record which reads &quot;Parents Albert Williams born 28/11/14&quot;.  Can anyone suggest what it may mean?</p>
<p>It may be useful to know that John CW PHILPOTS mothers maiden name was Williams.</p>
<p>Many thanks for any advice you may have on this intreging snippit of information.</p>
<p>Rebecca Jarratt.</p>
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