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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD pre 1800</p>
<p>Just a few HARDWICKE marriages listed 1791-1799</p>
<p>Ann HAWKER married Richard JACKSONS at Hardwicke 14 April 1794</p>
<p>Nathaniel HAWKINS married Susanna COOKE by Lic at Hardwicke - 3 May 1796</p>
<p>Moses REDMAN - married Margaret BRUTON at Wotton/Edge - 29 April 1734<br />
Richard REDMAN of Leonard Stanley, married Sarah LEA (Lic) - Glos S. Aldate 8 May 1782</p>
<p>on FoD records</p>
<p>Richard REDMAN - Bachelor<br />
residence: of the parish of Leonard Manley in the County &amp; dioceses of Gloucester</p>
<p>married</p>
<p>Sarah LEA - Spinster of this parish - by licence.</p>
<p>Witnesses: John KIDMAN/John REMINGTON</p>
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<p>Gloucestershire Burial Index 1800 onwards</p>
<p>Only one Burial of a HAWKER at Hardwicke St Nicholas</p>
<p>Ann HAWKER - 23 January 1818 - age 91 (residence: Morton Valance) = c1727</p>
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<p><br />
HAWKINS burials at Hardwicke</p>
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Ann HAWKINS - 7 December 1836 - age 83 (residence: Morton Valance<br />
Edward Gilding HAWKINS - 2m - 2 January 1839 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Elizabeth HAWKINS - age 69 - 22 July 1844 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Hannah HAWKINS - age 69 - 17 October 1829 - (residence: Longney)<br />
John HAWKINS - age 37 - 21 October 1850 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Joseph HAWKINS - age 69 - 21 March 1840 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Nathaniel HAWKINS - age 79 - 21 October 1841 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Nathaniel HAWKINS - age 60 - 23 January 1831 (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Nathaniel HAWKINS - age 54 - 24 November 1851 (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Susannah HAWKINS - age 23 - 22 September 1823 (residence: Morton Valance<br />
Susann HAWKINS - age 79 - 14 November 1851 (residence:Morton Valance)</p>
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and COOK/COOKE burials at Hardwicke</p>
<p>Joseph COOK - 20 February 1835 - age 60 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Mary COOK - 8 April 1847 - age 45 - (residence: Standish)<br />
George COOKE - 23 July 1832 - age 13 (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Nathaniel COOKE - 20 April 1846 - age 70 (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Charles COOKE - 27 August 1850 - age 11 (residence: Hardwicke)</p>
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<p>Hannah HAWKER buried 22 May 1842 at Frampton on Severn, age 84<br />
James HAWKER - 19 April 1813 - age 4 m<br />
Mary HAWKER - 26 Februry 1846 age 23<br />
Sarah HAWKER - 7 January 1821 - age 23<br />
Thomas HAWKER - 31 July 1844 - age 47<br />
Adelaide HAWKER - 24 July 1842 - age 3m</p>
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<p>Looking at the Burial Index, most REDMAN&#039;s were</p>
<p>Leonard Stanley<br />
Kings Stanley</p>
<p>most REDMAN&#039;s father&#039;s occupations of the baptism index, appear to be Clothworkers/Weavers/Plaisters/Stone Masons</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Both couples were married by licence rather than banns.  Is this what posh people did or would it be done in a hurry to save awkward questions? </p>
</blockquote><p>or<br />
it may be that they lived in different parishes - I think it was cheaper by licence compared to reading Banns in two parishes .....</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll try and follow the leads that you have supplied, Thanks.</p>
<p>One last question:<br />
Betty Hawkins marrying William Cook(e) 25 March 1762<br />
&amp;<br />
Mary Hawkins marrying William Moore 5 Feb 1761<br />
Both couples were married by licence rather than banns.  Is this what posh people did or would it be done in a hurry to save awkward questions? <br />
Once again, thanks to all who have helped me.<br />
Liz</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz</p>
<p>We can never find the one we really need can we?!</p>
<p>I suspect that this is the Thomas that married Ann (but no proof yet).</p>
<p>Name: Thomas Hawker  <br />
Gender: Male  <br />
Christening Date: 24 Jan 1724  <br />
Christening Place: ELMSTONE HARDWICKE,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND  <br />
Birth Date:  <br />
Birthplace:  <br />
Death Date:  <br />
Name Note:  <br />
Race:  <br />
Father&#039;s Name: William Hawker  <br />
Father&#039;s Birthplace:  <br />
Father&#039;s Age:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Name: Mary  <br />
Mother&#039;s Birthplace:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Age:  <br />
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02812-2  <br />
System Origin: England-ODM  <br />
GS Film number: 425411  <br />
Reference ID:  </p>
<p>I have also found a possible William:</p>
<p>Name: Will Hawker  <br />
Gender: Male  <br />
Christening Date: 09 May 1703  <br />
Christening Place: ELMSTONE HARDWICKE,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND  <br />
Birth Date:  <br />
Birthplace:  <br />
Death Date:  <br />
Name Note:  <br />
Race:  <br />
Father&#039;s Name:  <br />
Father&#039;s Birthplace:  <br />
Father&#039;s Age:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Name:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Birthplace:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Age:  <br />
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02812-2  <br />
System Origin: England-ODM  <br />
GS Film number: 425411  <br />
Reference ID:  </p>
<p>Still missing those darn marriages though!</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A follow up with info regarding Thomas Hawker.<br />
Thomas Hawker was left money by his mother and through a widow, Mary Moore of Hardwicke, his aunt.<br />
The will of Mary Moore was proved in 1797 (I now have copy) Money was left to various inc. her sister Ann Hawker (mother of Thomas) and sister Betty Cook(e). I&#039;ve managed to work out that the maiden name of the 3 women was Hawkins.<br />
Betty Hawkins married William Cook - Hardwicke - 1762<br />
Mary Hawkins married William Moore - Hardwicke 1761<br />
All four are buried in Hardwicke cemetery.<br />
I still can&#039;t find a marriage of Ann Hawkins and Thomas Hawker (parents of Thomas Hawker born 1756)<br />
Any leads would be gratefully accepted<br />
I hope that the above will be of interested for anyone researching the Hawker, Cook or Moore families.<br />
Thank you so much for providing me with the tips that got me this far</p>
<p>Liz</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to one and all<br />
I shall follow up all leads and see what I find</p>
<p>Liz</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>??</p>
<p>Hardwicke is less than five miles from Frampton.</p>
<p>Name: Thomas Hawker  <br />
Gender: Male  <br />
Christening Date: 24 Mar 1756  <br />
Christening Place: HARDWICKE,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND  <br />
Birth Date:  <br />
Birthplace:  <br />
Death Date:  <br />
Name Note:  <br />
Race:  <br />
Father&#039;s Name: Thos Hawker  <br />
Father&#039;s Birthplace:  <br />
Father&#039;s Age:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Name: Ann  <br />
Mother&#039;s Birthplace:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Age:  <br />
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02895-2  <br />
System Origin: England-ODM  <br />
GS Film number: 425428  <br />
Reference ID:</p>
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<title>Thomas HAWKER &amp; Hannah REDMAN, Frampton on Severn (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thomas Hawker born approx 1753<br />
Hannah Redman born approx 1758 - according to 1841 census - born in Glos. Died 1842 Frampton on Severn</p>
<p>They were married in Frampton on Severn on 24 Nov 1786</p>
<p>Does anyone know where they were born or have any other information about them?</p>
<p>They had many children - one of whom - Henry - was my 4th great grandfather.</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
<p>Liz</p>
</blockquote><p>The marriage date puts them &quot;relatively&quot; old - in their 30&#039;s - is it possible that Hannah was married before ?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parishmouse</p>
<p>have another marriage of a HAWKER (not REDMAN)</p>
<p>Thomas BEARD to Mary Hopkins HAWKER - 16 August 1789 at Frampton on Severn</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re welcome, hope it helps. <br />
Re Hannah you say her age correlates to the 1841 Census; I expect you know it also agrees with this PR.</p>
<p>Record_ID: 313312 <br />
Entry_Number: 476 <br />
Year: 1842 <br />
Month: May <br />
Day: 22 <br />
Surname: HAWKER <br />
Forenames: Hannah <br />
Residence: Frampton <br />
Age_at_death: 84 y[ea]rs <br />
Officiating_Minister: John Colborne Curate <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P149 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_No: 60 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Frampton on Severn <br />
Soundex: H260 </p>
<p>Searching LDS doesnt give any likely Baptisms in our area even between 1740 &amp; 1769.  I was surprised to see that altho that site&#039;s usually very good at offeringup name spelling variants, in my case altho it did so for the surname it didn&#039;t also offer Annas etc when I first searched Hannah, so had to repeat the search - odd that. </p>
<p>PS I&#039;m frustrated as I&#039;m convinced I&#039;ve seen a usefull independent website quoted on this forum during the last 6 months or so which gave early PR transcripts for the Frampton/Fretherne area, but I cannot find it by searching..... I think I need rebooting !</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for the information</p>
<p>Shall try the will to see if there is any more info there</p>
<p>Liz</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz,<br />
am I right in thinking your birth year for Thomas is based on this PR ?</p>
<p>Record_ID: 314528 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1812 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 11 <br />
Surname: HAWKER <br />
Forenames: Thomas <br />
Residence: Frampton <br />
Age_at_death: 58 <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P149 IN 1/3 <br />
Page_No:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Frampton on Severn <br />
Soundex: H260 </p>
<p>If so then could this Will be his, may well be worth your getting a copy - from the Glos &quot;Non-conformists site&quot; as I call it  <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Results.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Results.aspx</a></p>
<p>&quot;Will No 83, Year 1818, May 23rd, Thomas Hawker of Frampton on Severn.&quot;</p>
<p>I&#039;ve no doubt you&#039;ve also seen this Baptism among the &quot;possibles&quot; shown on the LDS site, I think the only one for 1753 within the &quot;area&quot;, although this birthyear is subject to error of course. </p>
<p>Name: Hawkes  <br />
Gender: Male  <br />
Christening Date: 1753  <br />
Christening Place: TEMPLE, BRISTOL, GLOUCS., ENGLAND  <br />
Birth Date:  <br />
Birthplace:  <br />
Death Date:  <br />
Name Note:  <br />
Race:  <br />
Father&#039;s Name: Thomas Hawkes  <br />
Father&#039;s Birthplace:  <br />
Father&#039;s Age:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Name: Mary  <br />
Mother&#039;s Birthplace:  <br />
Mother&#039;s Age:  <br />
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C17295-1  <br />
System Origin: England-VR  <br />
GS Film number: 1596178  <br />
Reference ID: - 2:2XGQ79J  </p>
<p>see other &quot;possibles&quot; at <br />
<a href="https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&amp;query=%2Bgivenname%3Athomas~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahawker~&amp;birth_year1=1700~1750&amp;birth_place1=8%2CEngland&amp;offset=60">https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&amp;query=%2Bgivenname%3Ath...</a></p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Hawker born approx 1753<br />
Hannah Redman born approx 1758 - according to 1841 census - born in Glos. Died 1842 Frampton on Severn</p>
<p>They were married in Frampton on Severn on 24 Nov 1786</p>
<p>Does anyone know where they were born or have any other information about them?</p>
<p>They had many children - one of whom - Henry - was my 4th great grandfather.</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
<p>Liz</p>
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