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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#039;s worth, in my Forest family at least, it was fairly common for property to be left to one individual with the understanding that a certain amount of money, generally income from that property or somehow otherwise related to it, would be paid to another individual as part of the will.  </p>
<p>There are letters indicating that an elder brother responsible for executing the father&#039;s will is still struggling to come to terms with agreed upon payments when the youngest brother reached his majority 13 years following their father&#039;s death. Income from various different enterprises are given to different family members over a number of years.</p>
<p>In another will, the nephew inherits the homestead on the understanding that he pays the niece a sum of money, which he never does.  Other than questioning the young man&#039;s morals and a good fifty years of tut-tutting, nothing more came of the matter.</p>
<p>Perhaps it was redress to the non-payment of this sort of agreement that was at issue.  Some of these instructions can see terribly vague. It&#039;s difficult to know whom is being left what, with the instructions as to what is to be done with incomes and such in the meantime, and remainders in the end.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>? Did James MORSE think he should have had all of William DAVIES money.  As the Will was proved assume he didn&#039;t get a penny</p>
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<p>Ancestry: National Probate Records</p>
<p>Name: William DAVIES</p>
<p>Probate Date: 11 February 1862</p>
<p>Death Date: 21 December 1858</p>
<p>Death Place: Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>Registry: Principal Registry</p>
<p>11 February 1862</p>
<p>DAVIES William (<strong>effects under £20)</strong></p>
<p>The Will of William DAVIES of West Dean in the County of Gloucester <strong>Wood Collier</strong>, deceased who died 21 December 1858 at Breams Eaves aforesaid <span style="font-size:large;"><strong>was proved</strong></span> at the Principal Registry by the oath of Thomas NEARY of 7A Brook Street, Grosvenor-square in the County of Middlesex, <strong>Messenger to the Grand Junction Waterworks Company </strong>the sole Executor.</p>
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Grand Junction Waterworks Company</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Junction_Waterworks_Company">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Junction_Waterworks_Company</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a very useful website to help people realise the value of these wills - Thank you</p>
<p>Still trying to find more information on this case but at least this website will help put things in a clearer context</p>
<p>janet</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the payment involved  was <strong>£22</strong> - this website should show you how much this was worth in 1858</p>
<p>? William DAVIS - what was his estate worth</p>
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<a href="http://www.measuringworth.com/ukcompare/index.php">http://www.measuringworth.com/ukcompare/index.php</a></p>
<p>Looking at the above website : £22 .  You would need to have <strong>£1,932.00 </strong>today for the equivalent purchasing power.</p>
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? No idea what Gale Rent costs were in the mid 19th century.</p>
<p>Looking at the Gloucestershire Records Office - Gales were a plot of land used by freeminers</p>
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Freeminers</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/archives/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=56536&amp;p=0">http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/archives/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=56536&amp;p=0</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this info - I thought that this James Morse was the one.</p>
<p>Maria Priest married Thomas Jenkins (as per previous thread)<br />
One of their sons, Shadrach Jenkins married Sarah Davis - father William Davis.<br />
On William&#039;s death in 1858, Thomas Neary (who married Hannah Davis, also daughter of William)was appointed execetor of William Davis&#039;s will.</p>
<p>It took just over 3 years to prove the will (1862) and at that point James Morse took out a lawsuit against William Davis&#039;s estate (in 1862)via the execetor Thomas Neary (see other previous thread).</p>
<p>I have the bill of complaint taken out with the Lord Chancellor and the Interogatories but can&#039;t find out what happened next i.e. what the outcome was.</p>
<p>Was just wondering if anything was known about it via the Morse family or even if it made the newspapers locally in Gloucestershire.</p>
<p>Was also wondering why it took so long to prove the will.  Land and property was bequeathed in the Davis will but it was a payment of £22 that was involved in the lawsuit.  Couls this possibly be gale rent owed?</p>
<p>Janet</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>previous thread re: this Court Case + and also DAVIES/KEAR connections</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=44286">http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=44286</a></p>
<p>Thomas JENKINS 1785 married Maria PRIEST - Newland - 17 September 1811</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=44106">http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=44106</a></p>
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<p> James MORSE (1861 census very faint)</p>
<p>Newland, District 9 - page 12 of 18</p>
<p>MORSE</p>
<p>James - 61, Farmer and Grocer  born West Dean<br />
Sarah - 52 - born Bream<br />
<strong>Thomas KEAR </strong>- age 22 - adopted son - Iron Miner, born West Dean<br />
Louisa WORGAN - House Servant, age 19 - born West Dean<br />
Alfred HERBERT - Servant, age 29, Carter, born Monmouth Dixton</p>
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<p>1851 Census, Newland<br />
Woodside</p>
<p>James MORSE - 51 - Farmer of 15 acres and grocer, born West Dean<br />
Sarah MORSE - 42 - born Bream<br />
Thomas KEAR - 12 - adopted son - born West Dean  **</p>
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*** According to Public Members Tree on Ancestry: Thomas was the son of Thomas KEAR and Eliza and on the 1841 census Bream Eaves (transcribed as REAVE)</p>
<p>Thomas - 24<br />
Eliza - 24  (<strong>nee PREEST)</strong> (father : Thomas PRIEST, Collier - re marriage records)<br />
Thomas -2  (on this tree, Thomas married Louse CATHCART - 9 April 1864 - witnesses: Helen, her sister &amp; James MORSE)***<br />
Anne - 1</p>
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house before that a BEACH family (again in previous threads re DAVIES/PREEST etc)</p>
<p>Thomas BEACH - 35<br />
Sarah - 30<br />
Eliza - 5<br />
Ann - 3</p>
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Thomas KEAR married Elizabeth PRIEST - 22 September 1838, Newland (father Thomas PRIEST)<br />
Thomas KEAR baptised - 14 April 1839</p>
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<p>***</p>
<p>Fod Records</p>
<p>Marriage 9 April 1864 (Bream)</p>
<p>Thomas KEAR aged 25, Bachelor, Farmer, residence: Bream Woodside<br />
father: <strong>Thomas KEAR, Innkeeper</strong></p>
<p>married</p>
<p>Louise CATHCART - aged 26, Spinster, residence, Bream Woodside</p>
<p>father: Robert James CATHCART, Solicitor</p>
<p>by<strong> Licence:</strong></p>
<p>witnesses: <strong>James MORSE</strong> and Helen CATHCART</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone claiming a James Morse, who styles himself as grocer and farmer &quot;of Whitecroft&quot;.  I have found some legal papers citing a court case between him against the estate of William Davies of Bream in 1862.</p>
<p>I was wondering if anyone knew more details of the case and how it was resolved.</p>
<p>Janet</p>
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