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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That looks right. St John&#039;s Cinderford 29th June 1873. Follows on from Sarah Ann c1857, Charlotte c1859 (died 1864), Thomas c1861, Maria c1866 and James c1871. Vague dates as from census returns not PR&#039;s. </p>
<p>Thomas James may have had a next older sister Susan who married George Wait(e) next older brother to Sarah.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second witness at the wedding was Charlotte BEDNEY</p>
<p>On Gloucestershirebdm: BEDNEY births 1862 and 1863 (mother&#039;s maiden name WAIT(E)</p>
<p>and Fod Records:  at Cinderford St John</p>
<p>21 September 1862: John BEDNEY, parents Charles &amp; Charlotte<br />
25 December 1865 : Sabine Agness BEDNEY, parents as above</p>
<p>Freebdm</p>
<p>Charles BEDNEY married Charlotte WAIT - District : Upton (Upton on Severn, Worcestershire) - Dec Qtr 1852</p>
<p>Fod records</p>
<p>Burial at Cinderford St John: Charlotte BEDNEY - 30 November 1910 aged 76, The Nethend Inn, Woolaston</p>
<p><br />
There are previous threads on BEDNEY/WAITE/VAUGHAN on this forum</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou. I believe Thomas is on the first census return you showed, at Oakwood. He was born in 1836 as his wedding to Sarah Wait shows the follwing <br />
Record_ID: 13664<br />
Entry_Number: 193<br />
Year: 1856<br />
Month: May<br />
Day: 2<br />
Grooms_Surname: JAMES<br />
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas<br />
Grooms_Age: 20<br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: miner<br />
Grooms_Residence: Newnham<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: James<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Richard<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: miner<br />
Brides_Surname: WAIT<br />
Brides_Forenames: Sarah<br />
Brides_Age: 20<br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: Newnham<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Wait<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: labourer<br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark<br />
Witness_1: Mark of Samuel Wait<br />
Witness_2: mark of Charlotte Bedney</p>
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Married at Newhnam. </p>
<p>I believe this is Thomas as he and Sarah are shown as parents of Margaret James , my gg grandmother.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Richard JAMES &amp; Ann FRANKLIN/FRANKLYN (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters</p>
<p>On the Church of Latter Day Saints</p>
<p>Richard JAMES married Ann FRANKLYN, 1834, Trevethin, Monmouthshire</p>
<p>and on Freereg</p>
<p>3 March 1834 - Trevethin Parish Church</p>
<p>Richard JAMES of this Parish, Bachelor and Ann FRANKLIN of this Parish, Spinster</p>
<p>witnesses: Peter JAMES and Mary JENKINS</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p>The two nephews i.e. Richard JAMES age 17/Thomas JAMES aged 15 </p>
<p>and Niece Martha JAMES aged 9  - </p>
<p>Gloucestershirebmd <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/</a></p>
<p>Martha JAMES - 1841, Mother&#039;s Former Name: <strong>FRANKLIN</strong>  Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford</p>
<p><br />
living with their possible Uncle</p>
<p>George FRANKLYN christened at Bream 15 October 1820 - parents : Joseph (Wood Collier) and Elizabeth<br />
Sarah FRANKLIN christsened at Bream 13 May 1827</p>
<p>There are 5 earlier children of a Joseph and Susanah FRANKLIN at Bream</p>
<p>Joseph - 1801<br />
Samuel - 1804<br />
Peter 1807<br />
<strong>Mary Ann - 1811</strong> (this could possible be Ann - whose age is rounded up to 30 on the 1841 census)</p>
<p><br />
Joseph FRANKLIN married Susannah BIRT at Newland - 6 May 1798<br />
Joseph FRANKLIN (Widower) married Elizabeth JONES at Newland - 21 December 1817</p>
<p><br />
-</p>
<p><br />
?</p>
<p>Burial at Newland - 11 August 1843</p>
<p>Mary Ann JAMES - residence, Coleford age 38 years c1805  (<strong>wife of Richard)</strong>  **</p>
<p>also at Newland - 4 May 1841</p>
<p>Richard james - residence, Coleford age 35</p>
<p><br />
** Gloucestershirebdm</p>
<p>Mary Anne JAMES 1843 - age 38 Coleford Monmouth</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 20:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 1841 census at Oakwood, Park Lane Oakwood</p>
<p>Quoted was</p>
<p>Richard JAMES - 30 - Miner - Y<br />
Ann JAMES - 30 - Y<br />
Richard JAMES - 6 - Y  (1851 census living with the FRANKLIN Family - Nephew)<br />
Thomas JAMES - 4 - Y  (ditto)<br />
Maria JAMES - 2 -Y</p>
<p><br />
then quoted was the 1851 census at Coalway, Coleford</p>
<p> ? not sure this is the same family as the 1841 census - as the maiden name of the children&#039;s mother quoted below is <strong>EVANS</strong> (GlosBMD) and <strong>Martha JAMES</strong> living with the FRANKLIN on <strong>GlosBDM 1841 </strong>- mother&#039;s maiden name is <strong>FRANKLIN</strong></p>
<p>Richard JAMES - 40 - Labourer, born Glos, Coleford<br />
Ann JAMES - 36 - Glos Coleford<br />
<strong>Cathrine JAMES - 10 - Glos Coleford</strong><br />
Elizabeth JAMES - 8 - Glos Coleford<br />
Eliza JAMES - 3 - Glos, Coleford<br />
James JAMES - 1 - Glos Coleford</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>think this is the family in 1841 at Coleford</p>
<p>Richard JAMES - 30<br />
Ann JAMES - 25<br />
Mary Ann JAMES - 3<br />
<strong>Catherine JAMES - 4 months</strong></p>
<p>Richard JAMES - Bachelor of Newland, married Ann EVANS, Spinster of Newland - 13 May 1837</p>
<p><br />
Assume George FRANKLIN aged 31 and a Blacksmith on the 1851 census born Bream, is Ann JAMES (nee FRANKLIN&#039;s brother)</p>
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<title>Thomas James family Parkend / Bream (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1861 England Census<br />
Sewdley [sic]<br />
East Dean</p>
<p>Thomas James - Head - Mar - 26 - Iron Miner - Gloster West Dean<br />
Sarah James - Wife - Mar - 23 - Gloster East Dean<br />
Sarah Ann James - Daur - 4 - Gloster East Dean<br />
Charlotte James - Daur - 2 - Gloster East Dean<br />
Thomas James - Son - 3 Mo - Gloster East Dean</p>
<p><br />
1871 England Census<br />
East Dean</p>
<p>Thomas James - Head - M - 34 - Miner - Glorshire West Dean<br />
Sarah James - Wife - M - 33 - Glorshire East Dean<br />
Maria James - Daur - 5 - Scholar - Glorshire East Dean<br />
James James - Son - 1 Mo - Glorshire East Dean<br />
Adelaide Lewis - Sister in Law - W - 31 - Glorshire East Dean<br />
Joseph Jones  - Boarder - Unm - 30 - Lab at Iron Works - Staffordshire<br />
Thomas Browning - Boarder - Unm - 22 - Lab on Railroad - Glorshire Awre</p>
<p><br />
1881 England Census<br />
Soudley</p>
<p>Thomas James - Head - Mar - 43 - Iron Miner - Gloster, Bream<br />
Sarah James - Wife - Mar - 41 - Gloster, East Dean<br />
Samuel James - Son - Unm - 10 - Scholar - Gloster, East Dean<br />
Margaret James - Daur - Unm - 7 - Scholar - Gloster, East Dean</p>
<p>Gloucestershire BMD Indexes:</p>
<p>Birth:-</p>
<p>Child Surname: James, Child Forename: Sarah Ann, Father Surname: James, Mother Surname: James, Mother Former Surname: Wait, Year: 1856, District: Forest of Dean, Office: Westbury on Severn, Newnham, Register: 16, Entry: 322.</p>
<p>Marriages:-</p>
<p>Groom Surname: James, Groom Forename: Thomas, Bride Surname: Wait, Bride Forename: Sarah, District: Forest of Dean, Parish: Newnham, Building: St Peter, Year: 1856, Register: 1, Entry: 193</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Background;</p>
<p>1841 England Census<br />
Oakwood<br />
Park End Walk</p>
<p>In the 1841 census the ages of adults were rounded up to the next 5 years. </p>
<p>Richard James - 30 - Miner - Y<br />
Ann James - 30 - Y<br />
Richard James - 6 - Y<br />
Thomas James - 4 - Y<br />
Maria James - 2 - Y</p>
<p>Baptism records of children:</p>
<p>Record_ID: 192432 <br />
Entry_Number: 456 <br />
Year: 1835 <br />
Month: Jul <br />
Day: 12 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: Richard <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Bream&#039;s Green <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: H. G. Poole Minister <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 57 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Bream </p>
<p><br />
Record_ID: 111947 <br />
Entry_Number: 797 <br />
Year: 1836 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 27 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: Thomas <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Eaves <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: H[enr]y Poole Minister <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/9 <br />
Page_Number: 100 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Parkend </p>
<p><br />
Record_ID: 192476 <br />
Entry_Number: 500 <br />
Year: 1838 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 30 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: Maria <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Oakwood Hill <br />
Occupation: Miner <br />
Officiating_Minister: H. G. Poole Minister <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 63 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Bream </p>
<p>1851 England Census<br />
Coalway<br />
Coleford</p>
<p>Richard James - Head - Mar - 40 - Labourer - Glos, Coleford<br />
Ann James - Wife - Mar - 36 - Glos, Coleford<br />
Cathrine [sic] James - Daur - 10 - Glos, Coleford<br />
Elizabeth James - Daur - 8 - Glos, Coleford<br />
Eliza James - Daur - 3 - Glos, Coleford<br />
James James - Son - 1 - Glos, Coleford</p>
<p>Record_ID: 9712 <br />
Entry_Number: 1557 <br />
Year: 1842 <br />
Month: Jly <br />
Day: 23 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Anne <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Coalway Lane <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: Edwd Hawkins Perpetual Curate <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P 93 IN 1/5 <br />
Page_Number: 58 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Coleford </p>
<p>Record_ID: 10079 <br />
Entry_Number: 1924 <br />
Year: 1854 <br />
Month: Jul <br />
Day: 30 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: James <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Coleford <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: J N Paztowiz <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Born Aug 18th 1850 <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P93 IN I/6 <br />
Page_Number: 4 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Coleford </p>
<p>1851 England Census<br />
Bradley Hill<br />
East Dean</p>
<p>George Franklin - Head - mar - 31 - Blacksmith - Gloucester, Bream<br />
Mary Franklin - Wife - Mar - 26 - Gloucester, East Dean<br />
Thomas James - Son - 5 - Gloucester, East Dean<br />
Richd James - Nephew - U - 17 - Ironminer - Gloucester, Bream<br />
Thomas James - Nephew - U - 15 - Ironminer - Gloucester, Bream<br />
Martha James - Niece - U - 9 - Gloucester, Bream<br />
Ann Nelmes - Visitor - U - 19 - Gloucester, Gloster<br />
Elizabeth Nelmes - Visitor - U - 15 - Gloucester, East Dean</p>
<p>1861 England Census<br />
Coalway Rd,<br />
Coleford</p>
<p>Richard James - Head - Mar - 50 - Stone Quarrier - Gloster, Newland<br />
Ann James - Wife - Mar - 46 - Gloster, Newland<br />
James James - Son - 11 - Scholar - Gloster, Newland<br />
Fanny James - Daur - 9 - Scholar - Gloster, Newland<br />
Sarah James - Daur - 7 - Scholar - Gloster, Newland<br />
Lucy James - Daur - 4 - Scholar - Gloster, Newland</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am researching the family of Margaret Sladen nee James.She was my great grandmother. Her father was Thomas James. I believe her mother was Sarah Wait. On her parents marriage record on this site it gives Thomas&#039;s father as Richard. Further research possibly shows the family on the 1841 census, living at Oakwood, Parkend Walk. I cannot trace the marriage of Richard to an Ann and also can&#039;t trace them in later censuses. <br />
I would be interested to hear from anyone who believes they may be related to the family and can fill in some missing details from the family tree.</p>
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