SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney (General)

by vicmillard, Friday, March 26, 2021, 22:53 (256 days ago)

Hello All :)
I am hoping for help on finding the ancestors of George Henry Smith (b Lydney 1873). Census indicates he lived in Highfield area of Lydney in the early 1900s with his wife and children. Later in Queen Street, where his daughter (my nan) was born.
His father is John SMITH (I know, sorry!), b. abt. 1838, possibly in Berkeley.. Mother was Sarah Grey GOODE (formerly DAVIES b. 1839).
They lived at Lydney Harbour in 1875.
Can anyone shed any light on his parents? (I need fresh eyes!)
Secondly, there is another family on Highfield in the late 1900s, (Highfield Villa?)a Thomas SMITH, a Railway Accountant. His son also worked for the railway and emigrated to Cuba and Argentina in the 1920s. Are these 2 families related, or is it coincidence that they lived kind of next door to each other?
Any info on the Smiths, Goode’s and/or on railways at this time would be much appreciated!
I think I can’t see the word for the trees!
Thanks in advance. :)

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 09:34 (255 days ago) @ vicmillard

It helps to give full information (there is a tree on Ancestry)

Just for background...


1891 Census - Lydney

No. 5 Cross Hands

John SMITH - aged 53, Mariner - born Berkley
Susannah - wife - 50 born Aylburton
Henry SMITH - son - 17 - Tinplate worker - born Lydney
John SMITH - son 14 - born Blakeney
David GOODE - Stepson - 27 - Mariner - born Lydney

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by vicmillard, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 09:41 (255 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Thanks MP. This is ‘my lot’. :)

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 10:00 (255 days ago) @ vicmillard

I can see various census returns etc on Ancestry etc.

Burials in the Parish of Lydney with Aylburton, Gloucester 1953.

George Henry SMITH - 28 Queen Street, Lydney - buried 17 December 1853 - aged 80.

The Great Western Railways - (lots of info on the net) - some employment records on the Ancestry

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 10:04 (255 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Had a quick look at Gloucestershirebmd

John SMITH married Susanna GOODE - St Lukes, Gloucester 1873

(will check on Ancestry)

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 10:08 (255 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

I've found the marriage on Ancestry

2nd February 1873

John SMITH - full age, Bachelor - occupation: Sailor, residence: St Luke's Parish
father: John SMITH - (Master Mariner)

Susannah GOODE - full age (Widow) residence: St Luke's Parish -
father: David DAVIES - Ship Builder

(there is a x with writing, but can't make it out)

Witnesses: George Gower GOODE
Susannah Ellanway?

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Susannah - is on early census with her husband)

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SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 10:12 (255 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Baptism at Berkeley

28 January 1838

John - son of John (Mariner) and Elizabeth SMITH - abode: Berkeley -


GRO Inde

? possible birth reg: J/F/M Qtr 1838 - Thornbury Union District (which includes Berkeley)

SMITH John - mother's maiden surname: LONG
GRO Reference: Volume 11 - Page 407


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John SMITH married Elizabeth LONG
18 April 1835, Berkeley, Gloucestershire.

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 10:29 (255 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

The marriage banns are on Ancestry - (both of this Parish)

and the marriage

John SMITH of this Parish and
Elizabeth LONG of this Parish

were married by banns with Consent, of all parties

18 of April 1835

By me: John MAYNARD, Curage

(both sign their name with an X - so they couldn't read or write)

In the presence of Mary Inidgies? (signed with an X)
Samule DOWELL;s mark (again signed with an X
Henry CLARKE

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 11:50 (255 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

John Smith - christened 1838

had a Sister, Susan Ann SMITH - christened at Berkeley - 5 June 1836
parents: John SMITH (Waterman) and Elizabeth

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Susan married at Awre - 27 August 1862 (on Ancestry) marriage record on this website) - to John Petheram (witnesses T POOKETE? and Catherine LONG - - Elizabeth SMITH - died in 1860 - record on this website.

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This is the 1841 census - Awre, Tithing of Awre

Cottage

John LONG - 63 - labourer - born in County
Elizth SMITH - 35 -
Susan SMITH - 3
John SMITH - 3


1851 Census Awre

Elizabeth SMITH - Head - Married - 35 - Mariners Wife - born Berkeley
Susan SMITH - dau - 17 - Mariners daughter - born Berkeley

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SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, March 27, 2021, 12:18 (255 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Here is the 1861 census for Awre

Susan A SMITH - Head - unmarried - 24- Milliner, born Berkeley
Elizabeth DAVIS/DAVIES - Wid - 67 - Formerly House Keeper - born Monmouth, Newchurch?
Catherine LONG - Cousin - unmarried - 243 Huntsmans? daughter - born Gloucester, Berkeley


Burial at Awre

17 January 1860

Elizabeth SMITH - aged 43

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by vicmillard, Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 20:31 (252 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Wow! Thanks MPG. What a huge amount of work you have done on my behalf. I am very grateful to you. I will put this together on my tree, and see how it all fits together.
Am I allowed supplementary questions after that? :)
Thanks again. Xx

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 21:21 (252 days ago) @ vicmillard

Glad to help. Await your next questions!

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by vicmillard, Monday, April 05, 2021, 10:33 (246 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Good morning MPG, and Happy Easter.
I have updated my tree with your new information.
All roads lead to Awre and Berkeley now, it seems - so there’s an excuse for a summer day out :)
I am still curious as to whether John Smith (b 1814) is related to the Thomas Smith family who lived on Highfield in the 19th Century.
Their father is I think, a Thomas Smith born abt 1810 in Frampton, married Georgianna Gwynn, and his parents were Thomas Smith and Hester (she was from Wick/Absom?)
Your critical eye would be much appreciated!
Warm regards
X

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Tuesday, April 06, 2021, 13:27 (245 days ago) @ vicmillard

There is marriage of Thomas SMITH to Esther GWYYN - is on Ancestry

at the Parish Church of St Mary de Crypt - 9 December 1838

Thomas SMITH - full age, Bachelor - occupation: Draper
residence: St Mary de Crypt

father: Thomas SMITH - Paper Maker

to

Esther GWYNN - full age, Spinster, residence: St Owens
father: Edward GWYNN - Greengrocer

witnesses: John SMITH and Emily SMITH.


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There is also a Public Member's Tree on Ancestry


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Looking on Gloucestershire bmd

1840
Female SMITH - mother's maiden name: GWYNN - Stroud - Dursley, Wotton-under-edge
Clara Harris SMITH - 1842 - Forest of Dean, Westbury on Severn, Newnham

1851 Census Lydney

Thomas SMITH - 38
Georgeianna - 39
+ plus the children (including Elizabeth aged 10 - born Gloucestershire Wotton under Edge)


Tree on Ancestry, gives her name as Georgianna Esther GWYNN

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Tuesday, April 06, 2021, 13:47 (245 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Here is the birth of Georgeanna Hester GUYNN

(as transcribed on Ancestry)
birth date: 9 may 1810
Baptism date: 13 May 1810

Wotton Under Edge, Gloucestershire

parents: Edward and Rachel GUYNN


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Using the Forest of Dean 1841 census for Blakeney Awre
can call up

SMITH - Fitzwilliam - 2
SMITH - Georgianna - 25
SMITH - Sarah - 6 months
SMITH - Thomas - 25
SMITH - William - 20
(using this info - found them on Ancestry


1841 Census, Awre

Blakeney

SMITH
Thomas - 25 - Schoolmaster
Georgianna - 25
Fitzwilliam - 2
Sarah - 6 months

SMITH/GOODE family of Lydney

by MPGriffiths @, Tuesday, April 06, 2021, 14:12 (245 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Gloucestershire Inventories

28 September 1836

Thomas SMITH (Papermaker) - died in 19 January 1826 Frampton Upon Severn - and his Widow Hester - is on oath for his goods and chattels etc.

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